How to debate with Muslim or Moslim?

Once you know something about Islam and try to talk to others, you may find yourself in a debate. Here are some of the “standards”.

Everyone from Muslims to atheists uses this. The implication is that Arabic is a unique language that can’t be translated and therefore, how could you know what you are talking about? First, the Koran claims to be a universal message for all humanity for all times. If the message is universal, then it must be able to be understood by all. If the message cannot be understood by everybody, then by definition it is not universal. So, which is it?

Another thing to consider is that over half of the Koran is about kafirs and politics. Do you really think that a political message about a kafir cannot be understood by the kafir? If so, what is that message that cannot be understood?

It must be made clear which Arabic is being spoken about. The Arabic of the Koran is classical Arabic which is about as similar to modern Arabic as the English of Chaucer and Beowulf is similar to modern English. Said in another way, not even a modern Arab can read classical Arabic. It is estimated that fewer than a thousand scholars who read classical Arabic can compose a paragraph on a random topic.

And what about the nearly billion Muslims who don’t even understand modern Arabic? If it is necessary to understand classical Arabic to understand what the Koran is about, then how can those billion non-Arabic-speaking Muslims understand the Koran? And if they cannot understand the Koran how can they be Muslims?

Ask the person who presents the argument if they have any opinions about the doctrine of Christianity. Then ask them if they read Hebrew, Aramaic or Biblical Greek? If they do not read those languages how can they form an opinion about something they have to read in translation? Of course they can read it and form an opinion, the same way we can read and understand the Koran.

A secondary question is why would anyone want to believe that the Koran couldn’t be understood? What is the purpose of believing that out of all the books in the world, why would there be one that cannot be translated?

The Koran is only 18% of the total doctrine. Would the questioner believe that the other 82% of the doctrine not be understood as well?

This response usually comes after some grim facts are given about Islam. This is probably the most common response from non-Christians. The best response is to ask if they have a reason that they don’t want to talk about Islam, since they want to change the subject. The average person knows next to nothing about Islam and sometimes this gambit is merely a way to steer the conversation into a familiar ground.

They are just trying to prove that Islam is not any worse than Christianity. At this point, welcome the chance to compare the two. Choose the ground of comparison. The best place to start is the founders. Compare Mohammed to Christ. The other good comparison is in ethics. Compare Islam’s dualistic ethics to unitary Golden Rule ethics.

Another version of this is that the person will compare some failed Christian to a “good” Muslim they know at work. It is fairly useless to do personal comparisons. How do you choose which Muslim out of 1.5 billion Muslims and which Christian do you choose out of a couple billion Christians?

A variation on the “Well, the Christians did …” is “What about the Crusades”? This is the time to say you welcome a comparison of the Crusades to jihad. Start with the question of why the Crusades were needed. Islamic jihad caused the invasion of the Middle East. The Crusades were a response to a cry for help by the tortured and oppressed Christians in their native land. Did the Christians do some very wrong things? Yes, but notice that the Crusades have been over nearly a thousand years. Jihad is active today. And while we are at it, why do academic libraries have many books on the Crusades, which lasted only 200 years, and so few on jihad, which has lasted 1400 years? The West has analyzed the Crusades forever and has never analyzed jihad.

Why is the Muslim your friend knows the only Muslim out of 1.5 billion that makes him the expert on Islam? Remember, the average Muslim knows very little about the doctrine of Islam. Why? Because, historically the imams have acted as the high priests of Islam and they have never made the doctrine simple to understand. That is one way they keep their prestige and power.

But once you know something about the doctrine, you can say that you know also know a Muslim, and his name is Mohammed, and what you say comes from the Sunna. In short, your Muslim, Mohammed, can beat your friend’s Muslim on any issue of doctrine. If the Muslim your friend knows says something about Islam that agrees with Mohammed, then it is right. If what he says contradicts Mohammed, then he is wrong. So this Muslim your friend knows is either wrong or redundant, but never more right than Mohammed.

Probably so. What does that prove about Islam? He may follow the Golden Rule and not Islam. That is, he may be a poor Muslim and a good person.

Now is the time to explain about the Islam of Mecca and the Islam of Medina and which one is the more powerful. It is also time to explain about dualism and how Islam always has two faces.

Stay with doctrine and history of Islam, never get personal and talk about an individual Muslim. Actually, there is one way to talk about any Muslim, show how what they do and say follows the doctrine.

Besides, you know this Muslim and his name is Mohammed. Don’t talk about “Muslims,” talk about Mohammed.

If you are quoting the Koran or the Sunna, then it is the real Islam, by definition. The Koran and the Sunna are Islam, the real Islam. All other Islam, such as is found in the media, is the false Islam. There is only one real Islam, the doctrine of Islam.

This comes after you have revealed some horrific part of the doctrine. What do Muslims call themselves? The believers. What do they believe? The Koran and the Sunna. They say that is what they believe. Really believe.

This is a restating of, “I know this Muslim and he is good man.” He may be a poor Muslim and a good man who follows the Golden Rule.

But, the statement shows that there is no understanding of the duality of Islam. The Koran has both violence and tolerance against the kafirs. Today in America the power of Islam is just getting started, so Islam is still weak. When Mohammed was weak in Mecca, he did not kill anybody. Islam is still in the first phase of jihad here.

But the Koran says that one Muslim can beat two kafirs. It also says that Islam must be the dominant political system. So when Muslims reach a third of the population (that makes it 2 to 1), they will be in the full stage of Medina and violence becomes a standard operation. But even then, we know from the Sira, that many Muslims just don’t have the stomach for the violence. The Sira shows that Muslims can support jihad many ways, besides personal violence. The “peaceful” Muslim you know is commanded to give money to Islamic charities and the charities give the money to the actual fighters.

Look at the violence in the Old Testament. It has two qualities—local and temporary. None of the violence is commanded to be global and eternal. In each case the violence is directed in a political struggle and when it was over it was over.

The violence in the Trilogy is for all Muslims, in all places and for all time. Jihad is to stop only when every kafir submits. Look at Mohammed, the perfect example. He was involved with violence until the day he died. And on his deathbed he directed eternal violence against the kafirs when he said in his last breath: “Let there be neither Christian or Jew left in Arabia.”

The Sira records that when Islam committed violence, it attracted new followers. As Osama bin Laden says: “People like a winning horse.” After 9/11 in the US, new followers joined Islam. Communism was a political system that preached, promised and delivered violence and it attracted many people. Many people love violence. Have you never paid any attention to Hollywood? Violence is piled upon violence and people line up to see it.

Islam is growing rapidly. but most of the growth can be attributed to high birth rates, not conversion. Islam’s growth in kafir countries is due to immigration, not conversion.

1. A Federal prosecutor may be in trouble because he’s a smart, successful kafir.

2. Jihad against the Christians at the highest level!  A Common Word is supreme jihad by Islamic scholars and the Muslim Brotherhood, championed by the usual dhimmi suspects at Yale, Harvard and Princeton Divinity Schools. Here’s the brilliant rebuttal by knowledgeable kafirs to this taqiyya-fest titled, “Truth About A Common Word.”

3. The Muslim Brotherhood supreme guide in Egypt on Bin Laden the jihad fighter, Sharia law and various other hot Islamic political topics. From

The differences in the different kinds of Islam are due to religion, not politics. Take the Sunni/Shia split, the largest division in Islam. Both Sunnis and Shias completely agree on how to treat kafirs and jihad. All Muslim subscribe to one of five schools of the Sharia and the Sharia’s position regarding kafirs and jihad is the nearly the same for all the schools.

The only big difference is whether to use violent jihad or peaceful jihad against the kafirs.

If you quote a hadith to a Muslim and they don’t like it, they will say, “Well, some of those hadiths are not acceptable (or true or some other disclaimer).” And that is true. Actually, when a Muslim says that, they are practicing taqiyya, sacred deception and duality. If it is a hadith, then a Muslim cannot be denied the right to follow it. It is Sunna.

The hadiths from Bukhari and Muslim are the creme de la creme of hadiths. When Bukhari made his collection, he threw out 99% of those he found. Those 99% are the unsure ones, the other 1% which are used here are authoritative.

The core of the myth is told in the Koran about how Adam built the Kabah at Mecca. It was the first house of worship. Then Abraham brought Ishmael to Mecca, prepared to perform the sacrifice demanded by God. Ishmael was left in Mecca with his mother, Hagar.

We have a very detailed report of Mecca at the time of Mohammed right down to the names of individuals, their children and wives. Arabs were very keen on family relationships. A person’s very name gave you his father’s or son’s name and a chain of relationships. One of the things that infuriated the Meccans about Mohammed was that he said their ancestors were in Hell since they were not Muslims.

Not a single person in Mohammed’s Mecca is named Abraham, Ishmael, or Hagar. Not one. Why? They had no knowledge about any relationship between the Arabs and Abraham. They knew of the Jews and Abraham, but they made no claim of kinship with their names. After Mohammed, these names became common amongst Muslims.

This has another large implication. Islam claims that Muslims, Christians and Jews are members of the Abrahamic faith. Not so. There is no such thing. It was an unsubstantiated claim by Mohammed.

If you spend any time talking about Islam you will hear: “What about the greatness of the Islamic Golden Age? Why, the West got all of its real learning from the Muslims. They preserved the Greek philosophers, invented algebra, chemistry, the algorithm and laid the basis of our learning.” Or: “The high point of human civilization occurred in Baghdad and Moorish Spain. It was all peace and harmony with Christians, Jews and Muslims living in multi-cultural compatibility.”

“When Europe was mired in the Dark Ages, Islam was a shining light on the hill. “

Hmmm. Let’s go over the data. Notice that the best of Islam is compared with the worst of the West. First, there never was a “Dark Age”. This prejudicial naming came from the time of the Renaissance when they looked back at the dogmatic approach to knowledge in medieval times and wanted to separate themselves from it. It is just like new rich wanting to shed their poor ancestry.

Let’s examine the Middle Ages for a moment and see how they came about. The collapse of Greek and Roman civilization came about from internal problems of too much wealth for too long. The ravages of the bubonic plague wiped out an estimated 30 to 60 percent of the European population, making it vulnerable to invasion. The annihilation of the centers of learning came from the jihad of Islam. So even if you want to use the term Dark Ages, at least recognize the influence of jihad.

And let’s look at how “un-dark” the “Dark Ages” were. Everyone agrees that the Renaissance was one of humanity’s great moments. But how did all of that greatness spring from the “Dark Ages”? You don’t get a champion racehorse from a plug mare. The Middle Ages were a time when the European man was created. The collapse of Roman central government allowed a new culture to emerge that was a fusion of Roman, Greek, Celtic and Germanic culture. Part of this culture was mechanical genius.

Europe was creating a new mind, the mind that would change the world by producing practical machines such as water mills and a thousand small improvements in daily life. The cathedrals were a stunning tribute to humanity and works of great beauty.Â
Without the Middle Ages there could not have been a Europe or a Renaissance.

Now look at the Golden Age of Islam in Baghdad. Where did it come from? Not from Islam. The Koran was the first book written in Arabia. Architecture in Arabia consisted of mud huts. Mohammed’s house was made from mud bricks; a man could touch the ceiling and a curtain served as a door. Arabic culture was barely iron age with its only art being poetry.

So where did the learning come from? Islam crushed the Christian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist and Hindu cultures and brought them all together in one culture. The scholars of these cultures were brought together and created an intellectual surge called the Islamic Golden Age. It was kafirs who created this so-called Golden Age while Islam took the credit. As an example, we call our numbers Arabic numerals. But the Arabs got them from the Hindus and took credit. We should call our numbers Hindu numerals.

It was Christian dhimmis who translated all of the Greek and Roman literature for their masters. Later, when this material was translated back into Greek and Latin, the Muslims got the credit for the work. In short, Islam got its knowledge just like it got its wealth— from theft and violence.

Islam cannot sustain any intellectual effort. Their own scholars cannot do the work due to the limitations of the dogma of Islamic thought.

And what were the Muslims able to do with this knowledge? Not much. What did they do with glass? Make pretty windows for the mosque. Europeans took glass and made microscopes and telescopes as well as stained glass. What did the Muslims do with mathematics? Not much. They combined the mathematics of the Greeks and Hindus and created algebra. And what did they do with algebra? Nothing. When it came back to Europe, the Europeans created calculus and physics.

A list of the great Arabic scholars reveals that many on the list were Christians with Arabic names. And the best of the Muslim scholars turned out not to be very Muslim and their works were later demolished by Muslims who were true to the real knowledge of Islam, the Koran.

Now let’s look at the great Moorish Spain. It was supposed to be a great center of multiculturalism. Of course, there was that day in Cordoba when the Muslims killed 8,000 Jews, but ignore that. What did Islam do as soon as it came to Spain? Shipped a thousand blondes off to be slaves in North Africa. But ignore that. Then there was the day when, after a battle against the Christian knights, they beheaded all the corpses and all the prisoners to build a hill of skulls. A Muslim then mounted the hill of skulls and issued the call to prayer. But ignore that.

How can any culture that makes slaves and dhimmis of all kafirs be called great? Simple. It served the needs of the groups that pushed the idea. It was Voltaire and Jewish scholars who created the idea of the Golden Age in Moorish Spain. Why? As an intellectual counterweight to the hated Catholic church. That propaganda attack survives today. It is the intellectuals who hate Christianity today, who push the same ideas.

If Islamic learning was so great, then where are the great Muslim scholars of today? No Islamic nation has ever had a Nobel prize in science. Not one. There have been eight Muslims who shared Nobel prizes in science, but it occurred in working in kafir nations and with kafir partners.

Bill Warner

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AUGUST 27, 2002


I heard in the morning that my book, Utal Haowa (Wild Wind), has been banned inBangladesh.

The reason that was put forward by the government was that my book had destroyed the socio-political amity of the country.And that there were anti-Islamic statements in my book. The first part of my autobiography, Amar Meyebela, was also banned inBangladesh. Both these books chronicle my life. I have just one thing to say in this regard. You have no freedom of expression inBangladesh.

I have penned my views on politics, society and religion and they need not necessarily match the views of the government. If there is democracy in a country, a citizen will have the freedom to talk his mind out.

WhatBangladeshoffers in the name of democracy is farce. It is no democracy at all. Elected politicians act like dictators. But this is nothing new forBangladesh. Ever since 1971 whenBangladeshbecame independent, this has been continuing there. Various political parties use religion as a pawn to garner votes. Religion is the best tool with which you can fool the unlettered, the poor.

The government has taken away from me my right to citizenship. No government allows me to go toBangladesh. Whichever party has come to power has tried to throttle my voice. They are trying to show that they are doing all this to protect their religion. I understand, this will help them win votes.

But this is only going to push the country back by a thousand years. The possibility ofBangladeshever becoming a secular state is being destroyed by such acts.

Can you call a country a democracy where freedom of speech is not encouraged? Is it possible to dream of a healthy society in such a country? Never. No wonder political terror is pushing the country to the brink of devastation.

Murders are rampant, women are being raped, they are committing suicide. Ever since religion was made the guiding force of nation-building, torture on humanity has been on the rise. Fundamentalism destroys the amity between people. If this is not criticised, we will not have right-thinking people around. Without this, religious sentiments will keep a nation years behind in everything.

My blood is boiling

my blood is boiling as i m hearing the blast case in delhi…
 i think our government is blind as well as deaf…. they are just securing terrorists like afjal guru and amir ajmal kasab, while on the other hand they r fail to secure our protection,,,

 i think only the policy of “an eye for an eye” can protect us,,,
just kill the terrorists without any pity….
 just f**k them othewise they’ll F**k us,,,,,
the nerves of our government is full with dirty water instead of blood, so we have to do the job……
 aaj phir lalkara gaya hai apne watan ko,
 apne hindustan, apne gulshan ,apne chaman ko,
 ab dikha do yaaron, garmi unhe apne lahu ki,
 aur badh chalo aaj dushmano k daman ko…..

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હિન્દી ફિલ્મોમાં મુસ્લિમવાદ. From by. Kalpesh Soni.

Posted on August 1, 2011
“અમે તો હિન્દુ-મુસલમાન એવો કોઈ ભેદભાવ રાખતા નથી. હુસેનચાચા શાકભાજીની લારી લઈને રોજ અમારા હિન્દુ વિસ્તારમાં આવે છે અને અમે તો એમને બે રુપિયા વધારે આપીને રાજી થઈએ છીએ.” “ઐયુબ-રીક્ષાવાળો અમારા બાળકોને ફુલની જેમ સાચવીને સ્કૂલે લઈ જાય છે અને લાવે છે” – સંકુચિત દૃષ્ટિવાળા ઘણા હિન્દુઓ આવું બોલે છે. વ્યાપક દૃષ્ટિએ જોતાં દરેક હિન્દુએ મુસલમાનને ત્રણ પ્રશ્નો પૂછવા જોઈએ:
1. શું એ ગાય અને વાછરડાને કાપીને ખાવાનું બંધ કરશે?
2. શું એ હિન્દુ છોકરીઓને ફસાવવાનું બંધ કરશે?
3. ‘ઈશ્વરના અનેક સ્વરૂપમાં માનતો હોવાથી હિન્દુ કાફર છે અને કાફરને મારી નાંખવાથી ખુદા રાજી . . થાય છે’ – આ વાત ખોટી છે એવું એ કહેશે?
. . ત્રણેયના જવાબો ‘ના’માં આવશે. હવે હિન્દુઓ વિચારે, કે એણે મુસલમાન સાથે કેટલો સંબંધ રાખવો!

‘થ્રી ઈડિયટ્સ’ – હિન્દુત્વની નજરે

‘થ્રી ઈડિયટ્સ’ ફિલ્મમાંનો એક ઈડિયટ એવા ફરહાનના મુસ્લિમ કુટુમ્બમાં પિતા-પુત્ર વચ્ચે શિક્ષણના પાયાના ખ્યાલો અંગેના જે મતભેદો બતાવ્યા છે એ હકીકતમાં ઉચ્ચ શિક્ષણ લઈ રહેલા હિન્દુ પરિવારોની સમસ્યા છે. ઑટો ગેરેજ, મકાનનું રંગરોગાન, ગાદલા-રજાઈ બનાવવા, ઈંડા-મરઘી ઉછેરવા જેવા નિમ્ન કક્ષાના ધંધામાં જોડાયેલા અને ભારતમાં બ્રિટિશ એજ્યુકેશન સીસ્ટમ લાગુ હોવાથી એને શંકાની નજરે જોતા તેમજ એ શિક્ષણ લેવાથી પ્રયત્નપૂર્વક દૂર રહેતા મુસલમાન સમાજના 2 ટકા મુસલમાનો પણ શિક્ષિત નથી તેથી તેઓના પરિવારોમાં આવા સભ્ય તેમજ શિક્ષિત સમાજને લગતા પ્રશ્નો ઉદ્ભવે એ શક્ય જ નથી. આમ છતાં આ ફિલ્મમાં આમીરખાન મુસ્લિમ પરિવારને એક આધુનિક પરિવાર તરીકે ઉપસાવે છે. જ્યારે રાજુના હિન્દુ પરિવારની ખુબ ભદ્દી મજાક ઉડાવી છે. હિન્દુ સ્ત્રી વેલણથી પતિની છાતીમાં ખંજવાળે છે એથી વેલણ સાથે ચોંટેલા છાતીના વાળના ગુચ્છા રોટલીમાં આવે છે – એવું બતાવ્યું છે. શું આપણી મા-બહેનો આવી રીતે રોટલી વણે છે? એ જ રીતે પરીક્ષા નજીક આવે છે ત્યારે હિન્દુઓ કેવી અંધશ્રદ્ધામાં રાચે છે, એવું અનેક દૃશ્યો આપીને બતાવ્યું છે. એની સરખામણીમાં અભણ મુસ્લિમસમાજમાં વહેમો, અંધશ્રદ્ધા તેમજ કુરિવાજોની ભરમાર છે, છતાં એનો ઉલ્લેખમાત્ર નથી.

રાજુને આ ફિલ્મમાં પોતાની ગ્રહોના નંગની વીંટીઓને, પથારીવશ દર્દીએ વાપરવાના યુરિનટબમાં નાંખી દેતો બતાવ્યો છે. કોઈ મુસલમાન, એણે પહેરેલા તાવીજ-માદળીયા કે કાળા-લાલ દોરા-ધાગાને સંડાસના કમોડમાં નાંખી દે – શું એવું દૃશ્ય ફિલ્માવવાનું આમીરખાન પસંદ કરશે ? ગુજરાતનો નાગરસમાજ સભ્યતાની દૃષ્ટિએ અતિ ઉચ્ચ તેમજ સાહિત્ય અને ગીત-સંગીત વગેરે કળાના ક્ષેત્રમાં ખુબ આગળ વધેલો છે. એને આ ફિલ્મમાં કેવો બતાવ્યો છે? નાગર પરિવારનો દીકરો – રણછોડદાસ શામળદાસ ચાંચડ ભણવામાં નબળો છે અને ઘરનો નોકર છોકરો હોંશિયાર છે. આથી ‘રેંચો’ નામધારી એ છોકરાએ મહેનત કરવાની અને જે ઉચ્ચ ડીગ્રી મળે એ નાગર દીકરાને આપી દેવાની! ખ્યાલ આવે છે ને, આમીરની માનસિકતાનો! અને હા, હિન્દુ છોકરીને લગ્નમંડપમાંથી જ ઉપાડવાની અને એ રીતે સેંકડો હિન્દુ પરિવારોને એક સાથે બદનામ તેમજ દુ:ખી કરવાની પરંપરા શાહરુખખાને ‘દિલવાલે’થી શરુ કરી છે એ પરંપરાને આ ફિલ્મમાં આમીરે આગળ વધારી છે. છેલ્લે આમીર પોતાને ‘વેંગડૂ’ બતાવે છે – આ ‘વેંગડૂ’ એટલે શું? શું એ હિન્દુ છે? કે પછી એ ખ્રિસ્તી છે? ‘એ જીનિયસ વૈજ્ઞાનિક પોતાના સમાજનો છે’ એવો યશ કોઈ હિન્દુ લઈ ના શકે એવું આમીરે બરાબર ગોઠવ્યું છે.

હિન્દી ફિલ્મજગતમાં મુસ્લિમવાદ

પશ્ચિમબંગાળની જાજરમાન હિન્દુ અભિનેત્રી શર્મિલા ટાગોર અને મંસૂર અલિખાન પટૌડીનું ફરજંદ એવા સૈફ અલી ખાને પંજાબી હિન્દુ યુવતી અમૃતાસિંઘને પોતાના બાળકોની માતા બનાવીને છોડી દીધી અને શાહીદકપૂર તેમજ કરીના કપૂર – એ હિન્દુ કપલને તોડીને સૈફે કરીનાને પોતાની કરી લીધી. આમ કરતી વખતે એણે અમૃતાસિંઘના અરમાનોની સાથે-સાથે પોતાની માતાની લાગણીઓનો પણ વિચાર ના કર્યો. હિન્દુ માતા શર્મીલા, સૈફ અમૃતાને છોડે એની બિલકુલ વિરુદ્ધ હતી. છેવટે શાહીદ હાથ ઘસતો રહી ગયો. એ નબળો પ્રેમી સાબિત થયો. આની સામે સલમાનને જુઓ. એને ઓલરેડી છોડી ચુકેલી ઐશ્વર્યાને વિવેક ઓબેરોયે હુંફ આપી તો સલમાને વિવેકની કારકીર્દિ ખલાસ કરી નાંખી. ભગવાન પ્રત્યે ઉત્કટ પ્રેમ ઉભો થતા સમય લાગે એ સમજી શકાય પરંતુ પોતાની ગર્લફ્રેંડને પ્રેમ કરતા હોય તો એને સાચવવાની તાકાત તો હિન્દુ છોકરાઓએ બતાવવી જોઈએ ને ! એમાં શાહીદગીરી ના ચાલે ! આમીરે પણ પોતાની પહેલી પત્નીને છોડીને હિન્દુ યુવતી કાજલ સાથે બીજી વાર લગ્ન કર્યા. રણબીરકપૂર સાથે ગાઢ પ્રણયમાં મસ્ત એવી દિપીકા પાદૂકોણ તેમજ એને પસંદ કરતી અનિલકપૂરની દીકરી સોનમ, રણબીર સાથેના સંબંધો બગાડીને બન્ને આમીરના ભત્રીજા ઈમરાનખાન સાથે જોડાઈ ગઈ. આ રીતે ભારતના હિન્દી ફિલ્મના મુસ્લિમ હીરો ભારત સહિત દુનિયાના તમામ દેશોને એવો સંદેશ આપવા માંગે છે, કે દુનિયાભરની છોકરીઓ માત્ર મુસલમાન છોકરાઓને ભોગવવા માટે જ છે. તેઓ દૃઢપણે માને છે, કે ધર્માંતરણ દ્વારા મુસ્લિમોની સંખ્યા વધારવા માટે, જેમ ખેતરની જમીનમાં હળ ઘુસાડીને અનાજ પેદા કરાય છે તેમ ગેરમુસ્લિમ સ્ત્રીઓ સાથે શરીરસંબંધ કરીને મુસ્લિમ ઓલાદો પેદા કરવાની છે. વાનરવેડા કરતા સલમાને થોડા સમય પહેલા એક નિવેદન કર્યું હતું, કે ‘પોતે એવો આખલો છે કે જેનાથી ભારતની ગાય જેવી છોકરીઓએ પોતાની જાતને સંભાળવાની છે.’

હિમેશ રેશમીયાએ પોતાની ફિલ્મના દરેક ગીતમાં ‘યા અલ્લા’, ‘માશાલ્લા’, ‘શુભાનલ્લા’ વગેરે શબ્દો મુકવાનો તેમજ ગીત ગાતી વખતે હીરો-હીરોઈન પાસે વારંવાર ‘આદાબ’ની મુદ્રા કરાવવાનો નનૈયો ભણી દીધો તો સલમાને હીમેશને ક્યાં ગાયબ કરી દીધો એ કોઈ જાણતું નથી. એની સામે પાગલના રોલમાં સલમાનની, પાગલખાનામાં ફિલ્માવેલી એક આખી ફિલ્મમાં એક પાગલ ‘ઓમ શાંતિ: શાંતિ: શાંતિ’ એવો વેદના મહામંત્રનો જાપ કરતો હોય છે. એ પાગલને ધમકાવીને પાગલખાનાનો સિક્યુરીટી ગાર્ડ એ મંત્ર વિશે અતિ અભદ્ર કોમેંટ કરે છે એ ચાલે પરંતુ પોતાની ફિલ્મમાં પાકીસ્તાન વિરુદ્ધ બોલતા તેમજ ભારતની ગદ્દારી કરતા મુસલમાનોની બેઈજ્જતી બતાવતા પંજાબી જાટ હિન્દુ યુવાનો – સન્ની તેમજ બોબી દેઓલ પ્રત્યે વેરભાવના રાખી એમને એકલા પાડી દેવામાં આવે છે. તેઓની સાથે-સાથે અજય દેવગનની પણ સ્થિતિ એવી થઈ કે, પોતાની હોમ પ્રોડક્શનની ફિલ્મોનું નિર્માણ કરે તો જ તે કામ કરી શકે. મિસવર્લ્ડ ઐશ્વર્યાને મહિનાઓથી રોજ અડધી રાતે તેના ઘરે જઈને હેરાન કરી રહેલા સલમાન વિરુદ્ધ, અંડરવર્લ્ડથી ડરીને કોઈ પોલીસ ફરિયાદ કરી શકતું ન હતું – એ વાત સૌ જાણે છે. એ જ રીતે પરવાના વિનાની રાયફલ રાખવા બાબત સંજયદત્તની તપાસમાં જે ફોનકૉલ્સ ખુલ્યા એમાં બહાર આવ્યું, કે સંજયે હીરો ગોવિંદાનો કાંટો કાઢી નાંખવાની વાત ભાઈલોગને કરી હતી.

હમણાં અચાનક પાંચ મિનિટ માટે મારી નજર સામે ‘ફના’ ફિલ્મના દૃશ્યો આવ્યા ને હું ચમકી ગયો. મને થયું, કે ફિલ્મમાં આવું બતાવ્યું હોય તો ગુજરાતના માત્ર સરદાર પટેલ ગ્રુપે એકલાએ જ શા માટે એનો વિરોધ કર્યો? આ ફિલ્મ બનાવવા બદલ સમગ્ર ભારતમાંથી વિરોધ પ્રગટ થવો જોઈએ અને આમીરને દેશદ્રોહીનો મેડલ આપીને પેલા વિકૃત વાસનાવાળા ચિતારા હુસેનની જેમ આ દેશમાંથી હાંકી કાઢવો જોઈએ. ભારતીય નાગરિક તરીકે સૈન્યમાં દાખલ થઈને આમીર ભારતના હવાઈદળના જવાનોને મારી નાંખે છે અને પોતે પાકીસ્તાનને વફાદાર છે એવું ફિલ્મમાં બતાવે છે. ભલે એ ફિલ્મ હોય પરંતુ ભારતના એક નંબરના દુશ્મન દેશ એવા પાકીસ્તાનના વફાદાર તરીકે ભારતીય સેના તેમજ સૈનિકો સાથે ગદ્દારી કરવાની માનસિકતા ધરાવતી ફિલ્મ તૈયાર કરનાર માટે કહેવું શું?

યાદ કરો અમિતાભ બચ્ચનને! પોતાના દીકરા અભિષેકના લગ્ન મુંબઈમાં જ કર્યા છતાં ફિલ્મક્ષેત્રના એક પણ મુસલમાનને આમંત્રણ આપ્યું નહિ, ખાનબ્રધર્સને પણ નહિ. છતાં અત્યંત પ્રભાવી રીતે તેઓ ફિલ્મઉદ્યોગમાં ટકી રહ્યા છે. ટી-સીરિઝવાળા ગુલશનકુમારે જબરદસ્ત ક્રાંતિ કરી હતી. એણે પોતાનો નફો ખુબ ઘટાડી નાંખીને લાખોની સંખ્યામાં અઢળક ભજનોની કેસેટ્સ તેમજ સીડીનું નિર્માણ તેમજ વેચાણ કર્યું. પોતે તો કરોડો કમાયો પરંતુ એની સાથે-સાથે હિન્દુ ધર્મની એવી હવા ફેલાવી દીધી કે ચારે બાજુથી ગુલશનકુમારની વાહ-વાહ થવા લાગી. આથી કહેવાતા ઈસ્લામના ઠેકેદારો એવા અંડરવર્લ્ડના ભાઈલોગે ગુલશન પાસેથી એટલી મોટી રકમની ખંડણી માંગી કે કોઈ પણ ઉદ્યોગપતિ એ ખંડણી ચુકવવા તૈયાર ના થાય. અને હત્યારાઓએ ગુલશનને મુંબઈમાં ધોળે દિવસે રસ્તા પર દોડાવી-દોડાવીને માર્યો. રસ્તા પરથી એ મકાનોની ગલીમાં ઘુસ્યો ત્યાં પણ કોઈએ એને રક્ષણ ના આપ્યું. છેવટે કોઈ ખ્રિસ્તી બાઈના મકાનના, બાજુમાં બહારના ભાગે આવેલા જાજરુમાં જઈને એ ભરાયો. ત્યાં એ બાઈએ ટપોરીઓને ઈશારાથી ગુલશનના છુપાવાની જાણ કરી દીધી. શૂટરોએ શરીરમાં ગોળીઓ ધરબી દઈને ગુલશનને પતાવી દીધો. કોઈ પત્રકાર ગુલશનના મૃત્યુની વિગતો લેવા ગયો તો એ બાઈ ખડખડાટ હસતા-હસતા એની સાથે વાત કરતી હતી, કે છેલ્લી ઘડીએ મોતથી ગુલશન કેવો ડરી રહ્યો હતો? એ બાઈનું હસવાનું રોકાતું ન હતું.

ઘણીવાર મને પ્રશ્ન થતો કે બ્રાહ્મણોની ચોટલી, પૂજારીનું ધોતીયુ વગેરે હિન્દુ ધર્મના ચિહ્નો હાસ્યાસ્પદ શા માટે થયા? પછી ખબર પડી કે એ તો હિન્દી ફિલ્મની સમાજ પર થયેલી અસર છે. એની સામે ફિલ્મ જગતમાં ટાલીયાઓ ઘણા હોવાથી તેઓએ નક્કી કર્યું, કે ટાલીયાઓની મશ્કરી ન થાય અને ટાલ સ્ટેટસનું ચિહ્ન ગણાય એ માટે ફિલ્મમાં સારો રોલ કરનારને માથે ટાલ દેખાડવી. અને તેઓ એ બાબતમાં સફળ થઈ ગયા. વળી તમને એક પણ ફિલ્મમાં મુલ્લા-મૌલવી કે ફકીરની બેઈજ્જતી થતી જોવા નહિ મળે. ‘મુન્નાભાઈ’માં જ્યોતિષી બટુકમહારાજની કેવી ખરાબ હાલત કરવામાં આવી છે, યાદ છે ને! કોઈ પણ વિલન કે હીરો લગ્નમંડપમાં ગોરમહારાજનું કેવું અપમાન કરે છે? નિકાહ પઢાવતા કાઝીને તમે એવી હાલતમાં જોયો છે કોઈ દિ? જુની ઘણી હિન્દી ફિલ્મોમાં મંદિરના ભગવાનની સામે હીરોને ઉદ્ધત ભાષામાં ડાયલોગ મારતો બતાવ્યો છે. પૂછો, એ ફિલ્મના નિર્દેશકોને, કે મસ્જીદમાં જઈને ખુદાને પડકારવાની ગુસ્તાખી કરતા હીરોને દર્શાવતું દૃશ્ય તેઓ પોતાની ફિલ્મમાં ફિલ્માવવાનું પસંદ કરે છે?

એક ફિલ્મના નિર્માણમાં કરોડો-અબજો રુપિયા ખર્ચાતા હોવાથી અને અંડરવર્લ્ડના મુસ્લિમ ગુનેગારો એમાં રોકાણ કરતા હોવાથી સ્વાભાવિક રીતે જ તેઓ એવી ફિલ્મ બનાવડાવે કે એમાં હિન્દુઓની મશ્કરી થાય અને મુસ્લિમો સારા દેખાય. ઉપરાંત ફિલ્મો મુંબઈમાં બનતી હોવાથી અને મુંબઈમાં માફીયારાજ હોવાથી કોઈ નિર્માતા પોતાના જોખમે ફિલ્મ બનાવે તો પણ ભાઈલોગને તેઓની શરતે(મફતના ભાવે) ફિલ્મની પ્રિંટ્સ આપી જ દેવી પડે. આ રીતે મુંબઈના ફિલ્મક્ષેત્રના ઉદ્યોગપતિઓ આ પ્રકારની વિવિધ મુશ્કેલીઓ સામનો કરી રહ્યા છે. ફિલ્મઉદ્યોગને અંડરવર્લ્ડની તમામ બદીઓથી મુક્ત કરાવીને સ્વચ્છ ફિલ્મોનું નિર્માણ કરી શકાય એ માટે એ ક્ષેત્રના શ્રેષ્ઠીઓને ગુજરાતમાં યોગ્ય વાતાવરણ જણાય છે. એ માટે જરુરી સગવડો ગુજરાતમાં ઉપલબ્ધ થઈ શકશે એવું તેઓને સ્પષ્ટ લાગે છે.



I don’t know how many of my articles Readers  have read.  If you read enough you’d know that the reason I think Islam must go is because it is a doctrine that does not allow peaceful coexistence.

Let us say there is a religion with the following teachings. Do Moslim  think they  can have any peaceful co-existence with the followers of that religion?

We will cast terror into the hearts of Muslims. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. 8:12
Let not the non-Muslims take for friends or helpers the Muslims. 3:28,
Rouse the non-Muslims to the fight against Muslims. 8:65,
Then fight and slay the Muslims wherever ye find them, 9:5,
Fight the Muslims, and God will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame. 9:14 ,
O ye the non-Muslims take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Islam.9:23,
O ye the non-Muslims! Truly the Muslims are unclean. 9:28,
O ye non-Muslims! fight the Muslims who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you. 9:123,
Therefore, when ye meet the Muslims, smite at their necks; At length. 47:4,

I hope you agree that such religion has no right to exist, that its followers must be re-educated or if they persist they should be separated from the rest of mankind to maintain peace.

This is the 21st century and these educated Muslims believe the Earth is flat because the Quran says so and the Quran cannot be wrong.

Can you have peaceful co-existence with the Malsians whose sacred book mirrors the Quran and incites hatred against the Muslims?  You did not answer this question? Would you say that Malsi religion is a peaceful religion?  

No! Violence is NOT“shared characteristic” of humankind. People become violent when exposed to violent teachings. Yes, violence does also have psychological components, such as greed, envy, anger, etc. all byproducts of low self-esteem. However, crowds have a psychology of their own and they can become violent through external influences.  We do not expect to see violent behavior among a crowd coming out of a church, a synagogue, a Hindu or a Buddhist temple, or a Zoroastrian or a Baha’i gathering. But if I see a crowd coming out of a mosque towards me, I will run as fast as I can. 

Non violent people can become violent when they believe in violent teachings. If religion had no effect in how we humans behave, then what is the point of having religion at all?

The very purpose of religion is to influence people and make them do things their way.  If their way is peaceful, the believers are likely to behave peacefully and if it is violent, the believers will act violently.

Let us hear now what proof you can present to make us believe that Muhammad was a genuine, .

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Reality of Nehru dynasty !!!
by Umesh Kumar on Friday, June 24, 2011

1.GHIASUDDIN GHASI – Literal meaning of name-Kafir Killer. Mughal noble man who was the city Kotwal of Delhi.Persian ancestry. The British issued a shoot-at-site order to finish off all mughal noblemen who could be potential claimants for the throne of Delhi.

This ethnic cleansing was done by Sikh and Gorkha soldiers with an efficiency, which only they are capable of.

This muslim escaped from Allahabad and left for Agra. On way he was stopped by the British and asked to identify himself.

He gave his name as Ganga Dhar. Dhar is a Kashmiri brahmin surname.

When asked to explain his Persian features he told them he was a Kashmiri Brahmin.

The British believed him. If they had investigated him properly the history of India would have been totally different.

2. MOTI LAL NEHRU – Son of Ghiasuddin Ghasi. Hindu only by name. Was a muslim like his father. He picked up a Persian word ‘nahr'(canal or nullah) and added the sound ‘oo’ to make it sound like a Kashmiri Brahmin name. That was how the name Nehru was born.He was a totally unsuccessful vakil’s assistant(mukhtear) in the Allahabad court. In utter desparation he worked as a pimp at 77,Mirganj,Allahabad which was in a red light area.

3. THUSSU – Innocent, poor brahmin girl from Kashmir.After the death of his first wife during delivery, Moti Lal went to Kashmir and married Thussu. He renamed her as Swarup Rani.This innocent girl was not aware of Moti Lal’s evil designs.

4. MOBARAK ALI – Very successful and prosperous lawyer from Allahabad. Moti Lal befriended him in order to get a job under him. On bringing Swarup Rani to Allahabad he immediately gifted her to Mobarak Ali. Mobarak Ali kept her in his house Irshad Manzil for his pleasure. When she became pregnant, Mobarak Ali asked Moti Lal to take her back. Moti Lal requested Mobarak Ali to have the delivery at Irshad Manzil as he was living in a brothel. But Mobarak Ali refused.As per Sharia Laws even a @#%$ has a right of inheritance if he is born in his father’s house.So Moti Lal took Swarup Rani to the brothel at 77, Mirganj where the child was born.

5. JAWAHAR LAL NEHRU – @#%$ child born to Swarup Rani and Mobarak Ali. The Nawab of Oudh on hearing that this muslim child was living in a brothel, took him to his palace. Jawahar Lal lived in this palace from age 1 to 10. It was here that his circumcision ceremony took place. He was taught Persian and Urdu by the Nawab of Oudh. He never knew a word of Sanskrit or Hindi. Went to Trinity College,England. Came back and started an unsuccessful lawyer’s practice in Malabar hill, Mumbai. Arrested by Mumbai police for molesting a Parsi girl working in his office. Went on to become the first prime minister of India. Famous womaniser. He once had a keep who was a catholic nun. When she became pregnant,the catholic church stepped in and helped him out by sending the nun out of India. Ever since, the Catholic Church has grown in India with a speed that has not been mathched anywhere else in the world. They used to black mail Jawahar Lal and got what they wanted. Jawahar Lal died of syphillis.

6. INDIRA GANDHI – Daughter of Jawahar Lal and Kamala Kaul. Her real name was MAIMUNA BEGUM. She was a practicing muslim throughout her life. She was once invited to Mecca by the King of Saudi Arabia. Only muslims are allowed to enter the city of Mecca. Even the Saudis knew the truth but the Hindus were kept in the dark for obvious reasons. Our p-sec journalists worked overtime to push the news of the invitation under the carpet. Once she told one of her lovers M.O.Mathai, secretary to Nehru,”I will never marry a Hindu. I hate them. “This explains why she never took any action to save the lives of the Hindus in East Bengal. This also explains why she always surrounded herself with anti-Hindus.

7. FEROZE GANDHI – Contrary to popular belief, he was not a Parsi. He was the son of a muslim, Nawab Khan, who was the liquor supplier at Moti Lal’s brothel. His mother was a Parsi who converted to Islam after marrying Nawab Khan. In later years converted to christianity due to influence of his daughter-in-law Sonia Maino. His real name was FEROZE KHAN.

8. RAJIV RATTAN BRIJESH ROBERTO NEHRU GANDHI – Rajiv Gandhi was born to Feroze Khan(Feroze Gandhi) and Maimuna Begum (Indira Gandhi).His circumcision ceremony was conducted secretly. He was a muslim until Sonia Maino converted him to christianity. He went to Cambridge for his studies at the expense of the Indian tax-payer. He spent his time reading porn books and running after girls. Did not pass a single exam in three years. Was asked to vacate the hostel. Lived in the Indian High Commissioner’s residence for the remaining period of his stay in England. Picked up a low class Italian girl for a one night stand. But the girl had other ideas. He never got a degree from Cambridge. Was made a pilot(without any licence) in India to impress the low class Italian girl whom he was planning to marry.

9. SONIA MAINO – Low class Italian village girl from the village of Orbassano near Turin in northern Italy. Her ambition in life was to become an ‘au pair’ girl. In plain English it means ‘part time servant maid’.She had a get-rich-quick mentality which was typical of low class Italians. Someone suggested to her that she could go to Oxford or Cambridge where rich boys from all over the world were congregating for their education and they were looking for good looking young girls. This girl chose to go to Cambridge. If she had gone to Oxford, the Indian public would have been spared a lot of trouble. She went to Cambridge under the pretext of picking up some English which would be useful for her job as an au pair girl. She was picked up one night by Rajiv Gandhi from a Greek pizza place in a back-alley of Cambridge. The rest is history. She owns a shop named Ganpati in her native village of Orbassano on Regina Margherita Street, which is run by her sister Marouchka. To a visitor it would look as if they are dealing in Indian made trinkets associated with Hindu gods, like small figurines of Ganpati and pictures of Krishna as a baby.But they were actually selling original antique idols of Hindu gods stolen from Indian museums and Hindu temples in India.They have reduced the scale of business after the Italian police started investigating them. Her present financial empire leads all the way to Pablo Escobar,the head of the Colombian drug cartel. She exports coffins to a company called Tribute Caskets in Kansas City. A senior executive of this company Virginia Cover de Rodrigues is a very close friend. This woman owns a bank account code named Svenska into which the Bofors kick back money was paid. This Virginia is also a close friend of Manuel Noriega of Nicaragua.The president of the Vatican Bank Archbishop Paul Marcinkus who was doing money laundering for Escobar suddenly disappeared with a lot of money. The police were looking for him all over the world. He was safely sitting in no.10,Janpath doing in-house catholic services for Sonia Maino.

10. SANJAY GANDHI – @#%$ child born to Maimuna Begum(Indira Gandhi) and Mohamad Yunus. Went to England like his brother for studies, funded by the Indian tax payer. His original name was Sanjiv Gandhi. When he was about to be caught by the British police for stealing a car,a fresh passport was issued by the govt. of India with a new name Sanjay Gandhi, to escape arrest. When he was a boy his mother disappeared alongwith him for a couple of days. The excuse given was that the boy had a speech defect and had to undergo a surgery. This was one more lie from the family of congenital liars. The truth was that circumcision was done for Sanjay Gandhi and Indira Gandhi underwent an abortion to avoid the birth of the child sired by M.O.Mathai. In his later years he came across some photos of Indira Gandhi with Dhirendra Brahmachari in some compromising positions. Used to blackmail and physically assault his mother. Could have been assasinated by the Russians on a request from Indira Gandhi herself. The Russians would have gladly done it as Sanjay Gandhi was pro-American.

11. THE RANI OF ETAWAH – Dumb, stupid Hindu woman. On the death of her husband the Raja of Etawah, she found that she would have to part with her entire kingdom as she had no children. Asked Mobarak Ali and Motilal to fight her case. They asked her for Rs.500,000.00. This was a very, very big sum in those days. The Rani paid in full. They shared the amount between them and did not fight the case. The case was lost in the lower court. They then told the Rani that they would fight the case in the higher court. They took another 500,000.00.They split this amount also and did not fight the case.The case was lost in the higher court also. They then told the Rani that they would fight the case in the Privy Council in London. They demanded up and down plane fare, a fat fee for themselves and a fee for a British advocate to fight the case in London. The smart British advocate said that the Rani could get hold of an infant of the appropriate age and say to the entire world that she was pregnant at the time of the Raja’s death. This idea worked and the Rani’s kingdom was saved.This stupid Rani thought that Mobarak Ali and Motilal had saved her. She gave them a lot of money and gave Amethi,a part of her kingdom to Motilal. Ever since the members of the Nehru >family have been behaving as if Amethi is their private property. This was how Moti Lal bacme a very rich man. He bought Irshad Manzil from Mobarak Ali. Irshad Manzil in Persian means ‘House of happiness’.Moti Lal changed the name to Ananda Bhavan which means ‘House of happiness’ in Sanskrit.Jawahar Lal was not born in this house as our pseudo secular historians would want us to believe.

12. MOHANDAS KARAMCHAND GANDHI – So called Apostle of Truth. Aided and abetted in spreading the biggest lie in the history of mankind.

On thinking about this whole issue, I think we Hindus alone are responsible for this situation. How could a small family of muslims and Christians fool so many Hindus for so long and still continue to do it? I am reminded of what Abraham Lincoln once said,”You can fool some people all the time or all the people for some time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”….

Bhargava Vsn i dnt knw wether dis is true or not! but i hate nehru bastard & his family :

Hindu Samrajya From where u have got this refrence
, if it is true then we will print in all history school books when india become’s HINDURASHTRA

Tarun Goyal

अब सिर्फ प्रत्यंचा चडाने का ही समय है…शांति पाढ अब सरकार को भी पसंद नहीं वो ही आमने सामने का युद्ध चाहती है…

जब सन्यासी निकल पड़ा है युद्ध के लिए…..तो जनता कब तक सोती रहेगी…

Muslim Appeaser Politicians Turning India into an Islamic State

Muslim appeaser politicians turning India into an Islamic State.


Muslim appeaser politicians turning India into an Islamic State, Part 2

By FFI Contributing Editor Dr Radhasyam Brahmachari

Muslim appeasement by the UPA government:

In the previous article, it has been mentioned how the present United Progressive Alliance (UPA) coalition government in Delhi, under the leadership of Indian National Congress (INC) party is appeasing the Muslims of India with unfair, undemocratic, non-secular and even illegal privileges and concessions to Muslims and thus turning India into a de facto Islamic State. In fact, Muslims in India, despite being the minority, enjoy elevated status and much more privileges, generally offered by a typical Islamic government in a so called Islamic state.

The reader may gauge the extent of Muslim appeasement by the UPA government from the statement of its PM Manmohan Singh. He has said that the Muslims are the first to claim the produce of India. What is the basis of such a stupid comment? Does the Muslim contribute maximum share of India’s GDP? How aggressively the Congress is wooing the Muslim community nationally is evident from the a recent comment by another leader Digvijay Singh, who, while referring to the killing of Osama bin Laden, reverentially said “Osamaji” and bemoaned why the terrorist leader was not given a proper burial.

To please the Muslims further, the said UPA government has drafted a bill called “Prevention of Communal and Targeted Violence (Access to Justice and Reparation) Bill, 2011” and is intending to place the same in the Parliament in the coming Monsoon Session. If the bill gets approval of the Parliament and becomes a law, the Muslims will be supreme lords of the country while majority Hindus will be dragged into slaves of the Muslims.

It is needless to say that the UPA government is going to do this with an eye on vote-bank politics. It has been mentioned in the previous article that the Muslims cast their votes, not according to his/her personal choice but, according to the dictates of their religious and community leaders. Therefore, all Muslim votes go for a single party. When the quantum of Muslim votes becomes significant, or a deciding factor for winning or losing election, political parties start wooing Muslims for their votes by offering them unfair, and even illegal, concessions. The frantic competition that ensues among the political parties to win election and stay in power makes the politicians blind and take any sinister attempt, even at the cost of national interest, to win the Muslim block votes.  The reader may recall that the UPA government came to power for the second time in 2009, with the help of the Muslim votes and the present Communal Violence Bill is reward for their support.

The drafting of the Communal Violence Bill:

The draft of the so called Prevention of Communal and Targeted Violence (Access to Justice and Repatriation) Bill, 2011, has been prepared by the National Advisory Council (NAC), headed by Sonia Gandhi, the president of INC. It has been agreed by the NAC at its meeting on July 14th, 2010, the NAC Working Group on the Communal Violence Bill, has set up an Advisory Group and a Drafting Committee to develop a draft bill on communal and sectarian violence. The  draft a bill should aim to provide effective prevention and control of communal and sectarian violence, and justice and comprehensive reparations to survivors and victims of communal and sectarian violence. This would be ensured on the basis of certain essential elements accepted by people’s groups, civil society groups and the NAC, including the key principle of accountability of public officials. While framing the draft, the relevant provisions, including rules, for relief, compensation, rehabilitation, resettlement, restitution, and reparations, keeping in mind the rights of internally displaced persons.

The following are the members of the Advisory Group Members Communal & Sectarian Violence Bill, 2010 Advisory
 (1) Abusaleh Shariff, (2) Asgar Ali Engineer, (3) Gagan Sethi, (4) H.S Phoolka, (5) John Dayal, (6) Justice Hosbet Suresh, (7) Kamal Faruqui, (8) Manzoor Alam, (9) Maulana Niaz Farooqui, (10) Ram Puniyani, (11) Rooprekha Verma, (12) Samar Singh, (13) Saumya Uma, (14) Shabnam Hashmi, (15) Sister Mary Scaria, (16) Sukhdeo Thorat, (17) Syed Shahabuddin, (18) Uma Chakravarty, (19) Upendra Baxi, (20) Aruna Roy, NAC Working Group Member, (21) Professor Jadhav, NAC Working Group Member and (22) Anu Aga, NAC Working Group Member
 The Joint Conveners of the Advisory Group are (1) Farah Naqvi, Convener, NAC Working Group and (2) Harsh Mander, Member, NAC Working Group

The members of the Drafting Committee are (1) Gopal Subramanium, (2) Maja Daruwala, (3) Najmi Waziri, (4) P.I. Jose, (5) Prasad Sirivella, (6) Teesta Setalvad, (7) Usha Ramanathan (upto 20 Feb 2011) and (8) Vrinda Grover (upto 20 Feb 2011).

The conveners of Drafting Committee are (1) Farah Naqvi, Convener, NAC Working Group and (2) Harsh Mander, Member, NAC Working Group

The key Guiding Principles laid down before the drafting committee are
(1) Broaden title and applicability of the law to include ‘communal & sectarian violence’,
(2) Shift from empowering the State, to seeking action & accountability of State/public officials,
(3) Basic framework of law must not rest on declaration of “disturbed areas”,
(4) Need for an independent National Authority to ensure effective compliance with the law, without disturbing the federal structure,
(5) Ensure accountability & criminal liability of public officials for acts of omission & commission, for preventing or controlling communal & sectarian violence, or extending timely and adequate rescue, relief and rehabilitation,
(6) Incorporate the doctrines of Command & Superior responsibility,
(7) Definition of communal & sectarian violence to cover both isolated incidents as well as mass crimes, against people based on religious, caste, linguistic, regional and other identities,
(8) Need to specifically define and include new crimes/offences including sexual assault, enforced disappearances, torture, long-lasting social & economic boycott, and genocide, among others,
 (9) Need to remove prior sanction requirement for Hate Speech (Sec. 153A & 153B – IPC),
(10) Statutory obligation on government to lay down national standards for the entire spectrum of provisions for victims – including rescue, relief, compensation, rehabilitation, resettlement, restitution, reparation and recognizing the rights of internally displaced persons,
(11) Implementation according to the norms in point 10 to be a statutory obligation under this law,
(12) Compensation amounts to be specified in terms of national norms under the law, and revised every 3 yrs and
 (13) Need for amendments in CrPC and Indian Evidence Act to meet extraordinary circumstance of communal & sectarian violence to protect victims’ rights. In addition to that,
(14) specific provisions for victim-witness rights to be made under this law

The list of people as given above for guiding, monitoring and preparing the draft of the Communal Violence Bill 2011, one finds that all of them are loyal to the Nehru-Gandhi family. Many of them operate several NGOs and it is well known that an NGO is very efficient instrument to siphon public money. In addition to that, these committees were formed without any approval of the Parliament. So, while commenting on the formation of the committee, Sam Rajappa, in his article  Communal Violence Bill  says, “The very fact that Parliament was bypassed and the undemocratic National Advisory Council, acting as a supra Parliament, was entrusted the task of drafting the most sensitive legislation, makes the UPA government a suspect. Harsh Mander and Farah Naqvi, conveners of the advisory group to prepare the draft Bill, are known for bashing Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat, and do not enjoy the confidence of the public” (The Statesman, June 4, 2011)..

“The NAC is a conglomeration of NGO members handpicked by Sonia Gandhi for their faith in the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Most of these NGOs are foreign-funded and they act according to the wishes of donors.  It is indirect interference in the affairs of the nation by foreign countries. The NAC chairperson has become a supra Prime Minister and an instrument for maladministration”, Rajappa adds.

Salient points of the draft:

The most crucial part of the draft for the Communal Violence Bill 2011 is the definition of the term ‘group’. The basis of such groupings may be religion, mother tongue, ethnicity and caste, e.g. schedule castes and schedule tribes. The next important step is to decide whether a group consists of the people of minority or the majority community. In India as a whole, Hindus are a majority and Muslims and Christian are a minority, on the basis of religion. Based on this criterion, the draft proceeds to designate any group consisting of Hindus as a group of majority, while a group consisting of Muslims and Christians as a group of minority community. But such identification is utterly faulty.
 There are so many states, e.g. Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, Mizoram, Manipur, Meghalaya and Nagaland, and in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, where Hindus are minorities. So, in those states Hindus are deserved to be considered a religious minority. The most astonishing as well as ridiculous part of the draft Bill is that, communal troubles are created only by members of the majority community or the Hindus. From this basic presumption it comes out that for any incident of communal violence, only Hindus will be held responsible and punished. So, for any incident of communal violence between Hindus and Muslims in Jammu and Kashmir, where Muslims constitute more than 80% of the population, they will be considered a minority group and only Hindus will be held responsible and punished. Or in other words, if the Muslims in Jammu and Kashmir persecute the Hindus and massacre them en masse, even then the Hindus will be considered offenders and punished, while Muslims will not be held responsible.

Similar is the case for the states Mizoram, Manipur, Meghalaya and Nagaland, where Christians are majority and the Hindus are minorities. In the above mentioned states the Christian missionaries are carrying on ceasasionist movements. They have formed militant terrorist gangs and oppressing the Hindus. If the draft becomes a law, only the Hindus would be held guilty of such a violence and let the perpetrators go scot free, as they have labeled as a minority group. So, the draft Bill proceeds on the presumption that communal violence is created only by the majority community (Hindus) and never by members of the minority communities.

But history tells us that, so far violence between the Hindus and the Muslims is concerned, in almost all the cases, the Muslims are the initiators of the violence. The Mopla Riot in Malabar, Kerala, is one of the most famous incident of Hindu Muslim violence, was initiated by the Muslims (called Moplahs) on August 20, 1921. Instead of calling it a Hindu-Muslim riot, it would be proper to designate it as Hindu pogrom by the Moplahs. Another famous incident of communal violence is the “Great Calcutta Killings” that took place in August, 1946. It is also called the “Direct Action Day” by the historians. August 16 was Friday and that too in the month of Ramadan according to the Arabic calendar. It was therefore the holy day of the holiest month for the Muslims. On that holy day, lakhs of Muslims gathered under the Ochterlony Monument (now Shahid Minar) to offer midday holy Jumma prayer. After finishing the prayer, Muslims started to attack Hindus, killing Hindus, looting Hindu shops, setting Hindu shops and Hindu houses on fire. The killing of Hindus went on for several days.

Vultures feed on corpses of Hindu victims in Calcutta, August, 1946

Many hold this misconception that the 2002 Gujarat violence was initiated by the Hindus. But in reality, the violence was initiated by the Muslims by setting the coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express on fire on February 27 at Godhra and burning 59 Hindu devotees, including women and children, alive. This barbaric incident initiated the communal violence in Gujarat that claimed over 1,200 lives. So, many called this Gujarat Violence as post Godhra Violence.

The coach S-6 of Sabarmati Express burning at Godhra

So, it can be shown that in every incident of Hindu-Muslim violence, Muslims are responsible. It is due to the fact that the Islamic holy book Koran spews hatred against the non-Muslims, including the Hindus and the Islamic doctrine of jihad inspire the Muslims to kill them, set their houses on fire, loot their wealth and riches, rape their women, occupy their tilling land, convert them by force and so on and so forth. But the holy books of the Hindus do not teach such hatred and oppress the non-Hindus. So, the presumption of the Communal Violence Bill 2011 that majority Hindus should be held responsible and punished for any incident Hindu-Muslim communal violence is patently discriminatory, undemocratic and non-secular. Such a view is totally opposed to the secular principle laid down in the Constitution of India that holds ‘an offence is an offence and the offender should be punished, irrespective of to what group he belongs’.
The other devastating provision:
The other devastating provision of the draft is that, if an individual of the minority community brings an allegation of propagation of hate against an individual belonging to the majority, police will have the right to arrest him without any investigation and put him behind the bar. The victim would not even have the right to know from whom the complaint has come. During trial, the complainant would not have any responsibility to establish his allegation, and it would be the sole responsibility of the victim to prove his innocence.

It is needless to say that this provision, if it becomes a law, would equip the UPA government to victimize any of its political rivals, and send him to prison. Suppose a fictitious man brings an allegation of propagating hate speech against Narendra Modi, the chief minister of Gujarat, the police will have the right to arrest him immediately and put him in prison. He will be released if and only if he succeeds to prove himself innocent.  So, Arindam Chaudhuri, an author, has said that the bill is to kill secularism in India (The Pioneer, June 4, 2011). He has also said, “The NAC-drafted Communal Violence Bill is a recipe for unmitigated disaster. In the guise of promoting communal harmony it promotes rank communalism. In the guise of protecting minorities, it attacks Hindu rights. This Bill will strike at the very foundation of liberty and legitimise criminal misdeeds of Muslims. It must not become law.”


From the discussion presented above, it appears that the draft of the Communal Violence Bill 2011 has been framed with a strong motive of Hindu bashing. The contents of the draft grossly violate the sacrosanct principle of secularism, democracy and equality enshrined in the Constitution of India and if it becomes a law, it would be a disaster for the Hindus. Though it is doubtful whether such a draconian bill could survive even a preliminary scrutiny of the Supreme Court of India, the Hindus should raise their voice across the country so that the bill gets defeated in the Parliament. If this bill is passed by the Parliament and becomes a law, it will undoubtedly push India a step towards Islamization.

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